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sidebar - I'd like the riches but fame - no - paris hilton has the herps. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]] 17:25, 3 February 2007 (PST)
 
sidebar - I'd like the riches but fame - no - paris hilton has the herps. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]] 17:25, 3 February 2007 (PST)
  
==More Questions==
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==Monetizing Web 3.0==
1. I'm still unsure on how to turn directory pages into money besides google ads. It's hard to conseptualize why business's would want to me linked through me or how replacing recipes with companies yields anything.
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1. ''I'm still unsure on how to turn directory pages into money besides google ads. It's hard to conseptualize why business's would want to link through me or how replacing recipes with companies yields anything. I'm looking into ripping and modifying wiki travel for some income, but again I can't see how that translates into money besides google ads.''
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:Well, first of all, you can't ripoff copyrighted information. The way to proceed is to convince other subject matter experts to work with you in developing marketable content.
  
I'm looking into ripping and modifying wiki travel for some income, but again I can't see how that translates into money besides google ads.  
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:Secondly, IMO Google ads are merely a first step towards full-on Web 3.0 ie transactions. Become an expert on semantic tags and demonstrate how they can be incorporated by businesses. Here's the real key: which platform(s) is Web 3.0 to be implemented? Apache via raw XML? Or a truly beautiful interface like MediaWiki that is so forgiving with its open-edit capabilities? Have you taken a look at the automatically generated [[RDF]]s? I mean, do you have any idea how cool that is? Google absolutely scarfs them up.
  
2. If I created directory pages on let's say microsoft, dell, halliburton, could I then sell the pages back to them or would they usurp me sans fee?  
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:I'd bet on a wiki - we like to think Centiare has thought this through and has the platform, tools & resident experts to show others how to pull it off.
[[User:Garrett|Garrett]] 15:36, 5 February 2007 (PST)
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2. ''If I created directory pages on let's say microsoft, dell, halliburton, could I then sell the pages back to them or would they usurp me sans fee?  
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[[User:Garrett|Garrett]] 15:36, 5 February 2007 (PST)''
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:Directory listings are owned by entities that own the names, so you can't sell them property they already own. The reason we let non-owners create directory listings for entities they don't own is two-fold:
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:* To enable the same type of activity that takes place at Wikipedia ie many people seem to have an interest in creating articles for entities in which they have a personal interest. The problem at WP, of course, is that someone else then comes in and ''"messes with their stuff".''
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:* As the semantic web emerges, to allow those that have developed expertise in this field to offer their services to entities in which they created directory listings.
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:Keep your eye on the transaction cycle. How will this fit with hotels, restaurants & others in the hospitality industies? MediWiki provides an awesome platform to present summary information, place images, generate SEO semantic tags, link to reviews/recommendations, and enable purchases (reservations). How are they going to do this? By spending huge money on consultants using raw XML, or gain assistance from wikipedians who are already familiar with  an incredibly easy to use wiki interface?
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:Get the picture? Service/product catalog links to order-processing via semantic tags is the key. That's Web 3.0 - and we think it's going to happen here.  [[User:Snerfling|Snerfling]] 17:36, 5 February 2007 (PST)

Revision as of 01:36, 6 February 2007

Hello world --Snerfling 14:57, 16 November 2006 (PST)

Dear Snerfling, How would I go about adding "by Category" to the ASK query on Directory:KJ Kitchens? Thanks---OmniMediaGroup 08:23, 19 January 2007 (PST)

Please see water cooler - technical. Snerfling 08:46, 19 January 2007 (PST)

All of this new information is going to take a little while to digest and regurgitate into something of value, luckily I process rather fast. This semantic tag thing especially is a bit of a mental juggernaut to wrap my pea brain around but i'll get there. I'll keep in mind the main space v. directory from now on. Thank you immensely for all of your help.

sidebar - I'd like the riches but fame - no - paris hilton has the herps. Garrett 17:25, 3 February 2007 (PST)

Monetizing Web 3.0

1. I'm still unsure on how to turn directory pages into money besides google ads. It's hard to conseptualize why business's would want to link through me or how replacing recipes with companies yields anything. I'm looking into ripping and modifying wiki travel for some income, but again I can't see how that translates into money besides google ads.

Well, first of all, you can't ripoff copyrighted information. The way to proceed is to convince other subject matter experts to work with you in developing marketable content.
Secondly, IMO Google ads are merely a first step towards full-on Web 3.0 ie transactions. Become an expert on semantic tags and demonstrate how they can be incorporated by businesses. Here's the real key: which platform(s) is Web 3.0 to be implemented? Apache via raw XML? Or a truly beautiful interface like MediaWiki that is so forgiving with its open-edit capabilities? Have you taken a look at the automatically generated RDFs? I mean, do you have any idea how cool that is? Google absolutely scarfs them up.
I'd bet on a wiki - we like to think Centiare has thought this through and has the platform, tools & resident experts to show others how to pull it off.

2. If I created directory pages on let's say microsoft, dell, halliburton, could I then sell the pages back to them or would they usurp me sans fee? Garrett 15:36, 5 February 2007 (PST)

Directory listings are owned by entities that own the names, so you can't sell them property they already own. The reason we let non-owners create directory listings for entities they don't own is two-fold:
  • To enable the same type of activity that takes place at Wikipedia ie many people seem to have an interest in creating articles for entities in which they have a personal interest. The problem at WP, of course, is that someone else then comes in and "messes with their stuff".
  • As the semantic web emerges, to allow those that have developed expertise in this field to offer their services to entities in which they created directory listings.
Keep your eye on the transaction cycle. How will this fit with hotels, restaurants & others in the hospitality industies? MediWiki provides an awesome platform to present summary information, place images, generate SEO semantic tags, link to reviews/recommendations, and enable purchases (reservations). How are they going to do this? By spending huge money on consultants using raw XML, or gain assistance from wikipedians who are already familiar with an incredibly easy to use wiki interface?
Get the picture? Service/product catalog links to order-processing via semantic tags is the key. That's Web 3.0 - and we think it's going to happen here. Snerfling 17:36, 5 February 2007 (PST)