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*'' "Pope Gregory's ad 600 letter to the bishop of Salona to commiserate about raids, Salona"'' (raids by Slavic tribes) taken from: [http://books.google.com.au/books?id=KIhFr8klMowC&pg=PA9&dq=Pope+Greory+Slavs+tribe+Salona&hl=en&ei=rTj3TZ3mCo28uwPsnsGCDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false Croatia By James Stewart (p9)] | *'' "Pope Gregory's ad 600 letter to the bishop of Salona to commiserate about raids, Salona"'' (raids by Slavic tribes) taken from: [http://books.google.com.au/books?id=KIhFr8klMowC&pg=PA9&dq=Pope+Greory+Slavs+tribe+Salona&hl=en&ei=rTj3TZ3mCo28uwPsnsGCDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false Croatia By James Stewart (p9)] | ||
| − | *BRANIMIRO COMITE DUX CRUATORUM COGITAVIT taken from [http://books.google.com.au/books?id=EqNiAAAAMAAJ&q=BRANIMIRO+COMITE+DUX+CRUATORUM+cogitavit&dq=BRANIMIRO+COMITE+DUX+CRUATORUM+cogitavit&hl=en&ei=MljwTfHIIoyKuAOO3_WhBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA A history of the Croatian language: toward a common standard by Milan Mogus] | + | *"BRANIMIRO COMITE DUX CRUATORUM COGITAVIT" (c. 880 AD) taken from [http://books.google.com.au/books?id=EqNiAAAAMAAJ&q=BRANIMIRO+COMITE+DUX+CRUATORUM+cogitavit&dq=BRANIMIRO+COMITE+DUX+CRUATORUM+cogitavit&hl=en&ei=MljwTfHIIoyKuAOO3_WhBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA A history of the Croatian language: toward a common standard by Milan Mogus] |
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Danijel Dzino: ''"In addition, pope Gregory the Great mentioned the 'Slav' raid of Istria in a worried letter to Maximus the"'' this is regarding Slavic raids north of Dalmatia in 600AD. May be the first mention of Slavs arriving in Roman Dalmatian but as Danijel Dzino states it does not have to mean ''"mass migrations"''. [http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&tbo=1&tbm=bks&q=Danijel+Dzino+Pope+Gregory+the+great+letter+to+Maximus+the&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= Becoming Slav, Becoming Croat: Identity Transformations in ... Page 88] | Danijel Dzino: ''"In addition, pope Gregory the Great mentioned the 'Slav' raid of Istria in a worried letter to Maximus the"'' this is regarding Slavic raids north of Dalmatia in 600AD. May be the first mention of Slavs arriving in Roman Dalmatian but as Danijel Dzino states it does not have to mean ''"mass migrations"''. [http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&tbo=1&tbm=bks&q=Danijel+Dzino+Pope+Gregory+the+great+letter+to+Maximus+the&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= Becoming Slav, Becoming Croat: Identity Transformations in ... Page 88] | ||
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| + | John Van Antwerp Fine: "''In 879, under him, Dalmatian Croatia, now free of Frankish suzerainty, received papal recognition as a state. ... 864), ruled until about 910, when he was apparently succeeded by Tomislav, probably his son.''" [http://books.google.com.au/books?id=YbS9QmwDC58C&pg=PA261&dq=Medieval+Dalmatia+Croatia+tomislav&hl=en&ei=yWr9TcG5J4uqvQOLx7G1Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Medieval%20Dalmatia%20Croatia%20tomislav&f=false The early medieval Balkans by John Van Antwerp Fine Page 260] | ||
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Revision as of 03:27, 19 June 2011
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- "Pope Gregory's ad 600 letter to the bishop of Salona to commiserate about raids, Salona" (raids by Slavic tribes) taken from: Croatia By James Stewart (p9)
- "BRANIMIRO COMITE DUX CRUATORUM COGITAVIT" (c. 880 AD) taken from A history of the Croatian language: toward a common standard by Milan Mogus
This is interesting: www.hic.hr: Latin as a literary language among the Croats
Note to self: There is a major difference between...
- raids
- settlement
- mass migrations
Danijel Dzino: "In addition, pope Gregory the Great mentioned the 'Slav' raid of Istria in a worried letter to Maximus the" this is regarding Slavic raids north of Dalmatia in 600AD. May be the first mention of Slavs arriving in Roman Dalmatian but as Danijel Dzino states it does not have to mean "mass migrations". Becoming Slav, Becoming Croat: Identity Transformations in ... Page 88
John Van Antwerp Fine: "In 879, under him, Dalmatian Croatia, now free of Frankish suzerainty, received papal recognition as a state. ... 864), ruled until about 910, when he was apparently succeeded by Tomislav, probably his son." The early medieval Balkans by John Van Antwerp Fine Page 260
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Jedan od prvih primarni izvor spomenuti hrvatsko-Hrvat identitet na Balkanu je Dux Cruatorum Branimero ili kneza Branimira (latinski: dux Croatorum). On se pojavio na kameni natpis, c. 880 AD. Kneza Branimira je Slaven iz Dalmacija. Hrvat ili Horoúathos su imena od Sarmat podrijetla. U 1853 Ruski arheolog Pavel Mihajlovič Leontjev otkrio Tanaisa tablete. Tablete Tanaisa spominju tri čovjeka: Horoúathos, Horoathos i Horoathos (Χορούαθ [ος], Χοροάθος, Χορόαθος). Oni su pisani na grčkom i u 3. stoljeća iz grada Tanaisa, današnjeg Azov, Rusiji. U to vrijeme regija je imala mješoviti Grčki - sarmat (iranski) populacije. Termin slavenski prvi su upotrijebili Bizant (tj. Prokop-bizantski učenjak, Jordanes-6. stoljeća rimski birokrata), i bio zabilježen je u 6. st. (cia. 550) na grčki (Σκλαβῖνοι-Sklabenoi). Kasnije na latinskom je pisana Sclaveni.
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