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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=JHartley J Hartley] 30 June 2006 -  8 July 2006  
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=JHartley J Hartley] 30 June 2006 -  8 July 2006  
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/FFodor F Fodor] 8 July 2006 - 11 July 2006
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/FFodor F Fodor] 8 July 2006 - 11 July 2006
 
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Maypole Maypole] 29 April 2007  (68 contributions)
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Maypole Maypole] 29 April 2007  (68 contributions)
 
  
 
=== Attacks on [[Directory:The Wikipedia Point of View/Neurolinguistic programming | NLP]] ===
 
=== Attacks on [[Directory:The Wikipedia Point of View/Neurolinguistic programming | NLP]] ===
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=EBlack EBlack] 23 March 2005 - 15 September 2005 (186 contributions)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=EBlack EBlack] 23 March 2005 - 15 September 2005 (186 contributions)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=2000&target=HeadleyDown HeadleyDown] 5 August 2005 - 4 June 2006 (1509 contributions)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=2000&target=HeadleyDown HeadleyDown] 5 August 2005 - 4 June 2006 (1509 contributions)
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Medius_Maximus Medius_Maximus] 16 April 2006 (1 contribution)
 
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=DaveRight DaveRight] 12 October 2005 - 18 April 2006 (350 contributions)  
 
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=DaveRight DaveRight] 12 October 2005 - 18 April 2006 (350 contributions)  
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Bookmain Bookmain] 13 October 2005 to 6 June 2006
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Bookmain Bookmain] 13 October 2005 to 6 June 2006
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JaseC JaseC] 12 November 2005 (2 contributions)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JaseC JaseC] 12 November 2005 (2 contributions)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=1000&target=Camridge Camridge] 28 November 2005 to 9 June 2006
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=1000&target=Camridge Camridge] 28 November 2005 to 9 June 2006
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mindstore Mindstore] 12 July 2006 - 17 July 2006.  Mindstore specialised in ironic references to the 'effective' nature of NLP, inserting links such as [http://www.spencerinstitute.com/nlp-coach-certification-program.html this] to obviously exaggerated claims about the effectiveness of NLP.  For example  "NLP is the most effective so far - Hello all. I don't see how people here could have overlooked it. NLP is by far the most effective. '''A cure in a single session'''! Nothing else can beat that'. User:Mindstore 03:35, 12 July 2006 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Psychotherapy&diff=prev&oldid=63351049]. "NLP (Neurolinguistic programming) makes use of Chomsky's science of linguistics in order to produce '''amazing therapeutic results''', such as single session cures of phobias."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Linguistics&diff=prev&oldid=63351414]* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Figleaf_Riverdance Figleaf_Riverdance] 24 April 2006  (1 contribution)
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RomanX RomanX] 17 December 2005 (10 contributions)
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Steve+B110 SteveB110] 5 April 2007 - 29 June 2007 (124 contributions)
 
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/LemonMnM LemonMnM] 21 April 2006 - 24 April 2006 (3 contributions)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/LemonMnM LemonMnM] 21 April 2006 - 24 April 2006 (3 contributions)
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=100&target=Newtonspeed Newtonspeed] 29 April 2007 - 29 June 2007 (73 contributions)
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Figleaf_Riverdance Figleaf_Riverdance] 24 April 2006 (1 contribution)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/HongKongMasterofSci HongKongMasterofSci] 9 June 2006 (6 contributions)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/HongKongMasterofSci HongKongMasterofSci] 9 June 2006 (6 contributions)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MastaMan MastaMan] 11 June 2006 (2 contributions)
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MastaMan MastaMan] 11 June 2006 (2 contributions)
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Medius_Maximus Medius_Maximus] 16 April 2006 (1 contribution)
 
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BrightonRock101 BrightonRock101] 12 June 2006 to 28 July 2007  
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BrightonRock101 BrightonRock101] 12 June 2006 to 28 July 2007  
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RomanX RomanX] 17 December 2005 (10 contributions)
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mindstore Mindstore] 12 July 2006 - 17 July 2006. 
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** Mindstore specialised in ironic references to the 'effective' nature of NLP, inserting links such as [http://www.spencerinstitute.com/nlp-coach-certification-program.html this] to obviously exaggerated claims about the effectiveness of NLP.  For example  "NLP is the most effective so far - Hello all. I don't see how people here could have overlooked it. NLP is by far the most effective. '''A cure in a single session'''! Nothing else can beat that'. User:Mindstore 03:35, 12 July 2006 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Psychotherapy&diff=prev&oldid=63351049]. "NLP (Neurolinguistic programming) makes use of Chomsky's science of linguistics in order to produce '''amazing therapeutic results''', such as single session cures of phobias."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Linguistics&diff=prev&oldid=63351414]
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=1500&target=AlanBarnet AlanBarnet] 14 November 2006 - 10 February 2007 (759 contributions)
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Steve+B110 SteveB110] 5 April 2007 - 29 June 2007 (124 contributions)
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=100&target=Newtonspeed Newtonspeed] 29 April 2007 -  29 June 2007 (73 contributions)
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** Raises science-related COI [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=141340281 here]
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=5000&target=Hal+Cross Hal Cross] 9 jul 2007 - 5 Nov 2007 (1036 contributions)
  
 
=== Attacks on Alternative Medicine ===
 
=== Attacks on Alternative Medicine ===
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Phdarts Phdarts]19 May 2008 - 29 June 2008
 
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Phdarts Phdarts]19 May 2008 - 29 June 2008
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=== Attacks on Pseudoscience ===
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=1282&target=KrishnaVindaloo KrishnaVindaloo] 28 April 2006 - 5 December 2006 (1282 contributions)
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Addisababa Addisababa]  25 June 2007 - 3 July 2007 (9 contributions)
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== Alan Barnet ==
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It has been asserted by others that AlanBarnett is HeadleyDown. I would not like to call that, since at least some of the motivation for the assertion seems to be that he is pushing the scientific mainstream view of NLP in that article. Previously the article was under mediation; maybe it needs to be again. My understanding is that HeadleyDown was less calm and less polite than AlanBarnett. I have no personal knowledge of HeadleyDown, though. There is abundant evidence of conflict of interest in the pro-NLP camp, and they definitely dominate editing of that article. Guy (Help!) 10:57, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive175#NLP_update_-_Some_COI_issues_and_reluctance_of_some_editors_to_get_along_.28and_some_positive_points.29]
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Having compared the version from December 1 with the current version, it seems to me very much as if Comaze and a few others are promoting rather than documenting the concept. The article becomes more promotional with each batch of edits, and the fundamental fact that NLP is essentially a cult with no scientific validity is more and more obscured. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 15:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=94711304]
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You are reading far more into it than is warranted. NLP is a cultic system (per numerous sources), but that does not imply that anyone who is involved with it is a cultist or cult victim. The entire nest of NLP articles exists primarily to promote the cult of NLP, and that is a pressing problem. Several involved editors have a vested interest in promoting it, that is a pressing problem, too. Guy (Help!) 14:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG/Archive-Jan-2007]
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== References ==
 
== References ==
  
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Long_term_abuse/HeadleyDown Wikipedia page on HeadleyDown]
 
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Neuro-linguistic_programming Request for arbitration on NLP] opened 22 November 2005.
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Neuro-linguistic_programming Request for arbitration on NLP] opened 22 November 2005.
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/HeadleyDown Check user report]
 
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/HeadleyDown Check user report]
 
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Neuro-linguistic_programming/Workshopgeneral Feb 2006 Workshop] on NLP.
 
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Neuro-linguistic_programming&oldid=56630319 NLP talk page June 2006] leading up to Headley ban.  Shows Headley was actually very polite and helpful.
 
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** [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jdavidb/Archive4&diff=prev&oldid=38762700 Woohookitty] asked to act as mentor by Dcmdevit]
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** [The article [[Neuro-linguistic programming]] is placed under the [[Wikipedia:Mentorship|mentorship]] of three to five administrators to be named later. [...] The selected mentors are [[User:Jdavidb|Jdavidb]], [[User:Katefan0|Katefan0]], [[User:Ral315|Ral315]], and [[User:Woohookitty|Woohookitty]]. They will get to know the situation and actively monitor this article. Any questions of enforcement or questionable conduct should be directed to them. Thank you. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 10:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Neuro-linguistic_programming&diff=prev&oldid=38748900]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=1282&target=KrishnaVindaloo KrishnaVindaloo] 28 April 2006 - 5 December 2006 (1282 contributions)
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Long_term_abuse/HeadleyDown Wikipedia page on HeadleyDown]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Addisababa Addisababa] 25 June 2007 - 3 July 2007 (9 contributions)
 

Latest revision as of 19:55, 15 December 2008

HeadleyDown is the name of a Wikipedia editor who, according to Wikipedia itself, is "a community-banned Wikipedia vandal and habitual reincarnator who specializes in massive sneaky pov vandalism with multiple sock/meatpuppets (around 50 - 80 over some 3 years, often 3 - 10 at a time on multiple articles), and devastates articles by long term damage, and driving away of bona fide editors. It is not always clear which editors are socks, and which are meats [i.e. supporters] run by his associates."

What did Headley actually do?

Attacks on the Zoophilia article

  • JP Logan 17 September 2005 to 12 April 2006
  • J Hartley 30 June 2006 - 8 July 2006
  • F Fodor 8 July 2006 - 11 July 2006
  • Maypole 29 April 2007 (68 contributions)

Attacks on NLP

  • D.Right 27 January 2005 - 16 September 2005 (211 contributions)
  • DoctorDog 18 March 2005 - 12 September 2005 (89 contributions)
  • EBlack 23 March 2005 - 15 September 2005 (186 contributions)
  • HeadleyDown 5 August 2005 - 4 June 2006 (1509 contributions)
  • Medius_Maximus 16 April 2006 (1 contribution)
  • DaveRight 12 October 2005 - 18 April 2006 (350 contributions)
  • Bookmain 13 October 2005 to 6 June 2006
  • HansAntel 29 October 2005 - 6 June 2006 (87 contributions)
  • JaseC 12 November 2005 (2 contributions)
  • Camridge 28 November 2005 to 9 June 2006
  • RomanX 17 December 2005 (10 contributions)
  • LemonMnM 21 April 2006 - 24 April 2006 (3 contributions)
  • Figleaf_Riverdance 24 April 2006 (1 contribution)
  • HongKongMasterofSci 9 June 2006 (6 contributions)
  • MastaMan 11 June 2006 (2 contributions)
  • BrightonRock101 12 June 2006 to 28 July 2007
  • Mindstore 12 July 2006 - 17 July 2006.
    • Mindstore specialised in ironic references to the 'effective' nature of NLP, inserting links such as this to obviously exaggerated claims about the effectiveness of NLP. For example "NLP is the most effective so far - Hello all. I don't see how people here could have overlooked it. NLP is by far the most effective. A cure in a single session! Nothing else can beat that'. User:Mindstore 03:35, 12 July 2006 [1]. "NLP (Neurolinguistic programming) makes use of Chomsky's science of linguistics in order to produce amazing therapeutic results, such as single session cures of phobias."[2]
  • AlanBarnet 14 November 2006 - 10 February 2007 (759 contributions)
  • SteveB110 5 April 2007 - 29 June 2007 (124 contributions)
  • Newtonspeed 29 April 2007 - 29 June 2007 (73 contributions)
    • Raises science-related COI here
  • Hal Cross 9 jul 2007 - 5 Nov 2007 (1036 contributions)

Attacks on Alternative Medicine

  • Docleaf 23 February 2007 - 30 December 2007

Attacks on Pederasty

Attacks on Pseudoscience

Alan Barnet

It has been asserted by others that AlanBarnett is HeadleyDown. I would not like to call that, since at least some of the motivation for the assertion seems to be that he is pushing the scientific mainstream view of NLP in that article. Previously the article was under mediation; maybe it needs to be again. My understanding is that HeadleyDown was less calm and less polite than AlanBarnett. I have no personal knowledge of HeadleyDown, though. There is abundant evidence of conflict of interest in the pro-NLP camp, and they definitely dominate editing of that article. Guy (Help!) 10:57, 5 January 2007 (UTC) [3]

Having compared the version from December 1 with the current version, it seems to me very much as if Comaze and a few others are promoting rather than documenting the concept. The article becomes more promotional with each batch of edits, and the fundamental fact that NLP is essentially a cult with no scientific validity is more and more obscured. Guy (Help!) 15:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC) [4]

You are reading far more into it than is warranted. NLP is a cultic system (per numerous sources), but that does not imply that anyone who is involved with it is a cultist or cult victim. The entire nest of NLP articles exists primarily to promote the cult of NLP, and that is a pressing problem. Several involved editors have a vested interest in promoting it, that is a pressing problem, too. Guy (Help!) 14:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC) [5]


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